Rebash bug ?

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Markus
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Rebash bug ?

Post by Markus »

How is this possible ? I have several logs where this has happened across alts.
HP:Scratched MV:Fresh - Malaki: Scratched>
bash
HP:Scratched MV:Fresh - Malaki: Scratched>

* - % - *Malaki* sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!

HP:Scratched MV:Fresh - Malaki: Scratched>
*Malaki* throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!

HP:Scratched MV:Fresh - Malaki: Scratched>
*Malaki* throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!

HP:Scratched MV:Fresh - Malaki: Scratched>
*Malaki* throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!

HP:Scratched MV:Fresh - Malaki: Scratched>
*Malaki* strikes your arms extremely hard.

HP:Scratched MV:Fresh - Malaki: Scratched>
*Malaki* strikes your arms extremely hard.

HP:Scratched MV:Fresh - Malaki: Healthy>
bash
HP:Scratched MV:Fresh - Malaki: Healthy>

* - % - As *Malaki* avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground!
*Malaki* sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!

HP:Scratched MV:Fresh - Malaki: Healthy>
*Malaki* nods in agreement.

HP:Scratched MV:Fresh - Malaki: Healthy>
*Malaki* strikes your body hard.

HP:Hurt MV:Fresh - Malaki: Healthy>
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!

HP:Hurt MV:Fresh - Malaki: Healthy>
*Malaki* strikes your legs very hard.

HP:Hurt MV:Fresh - Malaki: Healthy>
bash
HP:Hurt MV:Fresh - Malaki: Healthy>

* - % - As *Malaki* avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground!
*Malaki* sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!

HP:Hurt MV:Fresh - Malaki: Healthy>
*Malaki* nods in agreement.
Emily narrates, 'take a nap at a patty to piss him off lol'

HP:Hurt MV:Fresh - Malaki: Healthy>
*Malaki* strikes your feet very hard.

HP:Hurt MV:Fresh - Malaki: Healthy>
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!

HP:Hurt MV:Fresh - Malaki: Healthy>
*Malaki* strikes your hands extremely hard.

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Malaki: Healthy>
bash
HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Malaki: Healthy>

* - % -
* As *Malaki* avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground!
*Malaki* sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Malaki: Healthy>
*Malaki* strikes your head extremely hard.

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Malaki: Healthy>
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Malaki: Healthy>
*Malaki* nods in agreement.

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Malaki: Healthy>
*Malaki* strikes your hands extremely hard.
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Re: Rebash bug ?

Post by Crunch »

Been noticing this as well, people with rebash scripts just pin you down indefinitely. Probably worth looking into
Chase
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Re: Rebash bug ?

Post by Chase »

It's not scripts. If the bashed person has a bad link then it's often just that. Then it ends up being a roll to see which bash was better- here Malaki
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Re: Rebash bug ?

Post by Markus »

My link isn't a issue. I ping 50.
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Re: Rebash bug ?

Post by Chase »

I'm not sure then. I've always been able to do that, and had it done to me before. Being bashed isn't an automatic chance to bash the other person first on next round
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Re: Rebash bug ?

Post by Markus »

I wasn't saying that either but it does get a little ridiculous. Especially when you constantly get rebashed 3 or 4 times in row to the point where you can sit at a patty and still loose.
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Re: Rebash bug ?

Post by Malaki »

1. learn about probabilities and randomness and you'll see that it's streaky in how it plays out. it isn't one then the other, it goes in streaks.

2. when the bashes end at the same time str, ob, weapon weight, bmi, % bash play a role in who is gonna bash more often. you're a ranger with 19 str, i'm a trolloc with 21 str. you aren't gonna beat me in bashes more often as a ranger, sorry.

3. crunch spams bash human in a room and still loses fights. lmfao.
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Re: Rebash bug ?

Post by Malaki »

Chase wrote:I'm not sure then. I've always been able to do that, and had it done to me before. Being bashed isn't an automatic chance to bash the other person first on next round
Also this. It's been how bash has worked for a long time. Markus seems to think that you should be able to bash someone near 100% coming out of being bashed.
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Re: Rebash bug ?

Post by Scrat »

If the timing is anything like wotmud, there's actually a small delay after you are done being stunned before you can start a bash, where your opponent can start a bash, allowing for these rebash possibilities if the person is fast enough/has the right timing.
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Re: Rebash bug ?

Post by Chase »

Also do people actually use triggers or scripts to chase or fight? How is that even possible?

I ask partly because I've had people claim I do that which is laughable.
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Re: Rebash bug ?

Post by Galnor »

The link of the person who was bashed should not matter here as long as they entered their bash command in a reasonable time. Once the command reaches the game, the command is queued executed immediately after their stun timer wears off; their link no longer matters.

If you see something like this:
* As *Malaki* avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground!
*Malaki* sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!
It means both bash timers completed on the same pulse. When that happens, the MUD rolls up to 100 bashes per player or until someone misses a bash roll. The first person to miss a bash roll loses the faceoff.
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Re: Rebash bug ?

Post by Stomp »

Galnor wrote:The link of the person who was bashed should not matter here as long as they entered their bash command in a reasonable time. Once the command reaches the game, the command is queued executed immediately after their stun timer wears off; their link no longer matters.
If this is the case, then how can this happen? -> viewtopic.php?f=13&t=6949
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Re: Rebash bug ?

Post by Markus »

Stomp that had to be your link.
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Re: Rebash bug ?

Post by Galnor »

No, it is not link related. The only way it could possibly be link related is if he lagged horrendously(like 2 combat rounds worth of lag between his computer and the game server).

I pulled an Uncle Scam and read the log in your profile(you can see it by signing in to the website from the home page). I believe this is what happened:

The penalty for being bashed is 2 full combat rounds of lag. However, when you are bashed, your lag increases by this amount. Therefore, if you already have, say, 1 second of lag, after being bashed, you will have 1 second + 2 combat rounds worth of lag.

You missed a kick right before Markus landed his first bash. Missing a kick results in 8 pulses of lag. As a result, as long as Markus timed his bashes perfectly, you would always wind up with 8 pulses + 2 combat rounds of lag every time a bash landed; You were in a no-win situation as long as you continued to play that game.

The reason for having bash increase lag was to make flee lag a little more painful, but I guess this is an unintended consequence and we may want to rethink the mechanic.
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Re: Rebash bug ?

Post by Chase »

Or they just need to flee off and move a few rooms to end the cycle
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Re: Rebash bug ?

Post by Galnor »

Actually, my explanation only makes sense for the first bash after the kick.

Since Markus can't start his second bash until the lag from the first bash wears off, Stomp's kick lag would have had time to wear off while Markus' timer for the second bash was running. When the second bash lands, he'd be at a normal bash stun state.

Need to think about this a little more.
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Re: Rebash bug ?

Post by Galnor »

Problem may simply be the timing of Stomp entering the bash command. He doesn't enter it until after the two combat rounds go off. If he entered it immediately after getting bashed it would queue up and the timer would begin rolling immediately once his bash stun is up.

That's my guess anyway based on the log.
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Re: Rebash bug ?

Post by Markus »

something Is not right !!!!!!
bash
HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Wounded>

* - % Lamgwin sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Wounded>
Lamgwin tickles your body as he bludgeons you.

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Wounded>
bash
Lamgwin looks at you.

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Wounded>
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Wounded>
Lamgwin bludgeons your head.

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Wounded>
HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Wounded>

* - % - You dodge a bash from Lamgwin who loses his balance and falls!
Your bash at Lamgwin sends him sprawling!

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Wounded>
kick
Your kick hits Lamgwin in the solar plexus!

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Wounded>
bash
They already seem stunned!

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Wounded>
bash
You barely thrash Lamgwin's body.
They already seem stunned!

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Wounded>
bash
They already seem stunned!

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Wounded>
bash
They already seem stunned!

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Wounded>
bash
They already seem stunned!

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Wounded>
bash
You thrash Lamgwin's legs hard.
Lamgwin bludgeons your feet.
They already seem stunned!

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>

* - % Lamgwin sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
change mood berserk
bash
Lamgwin bludgeons your head.

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Wounded>
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Wounded>
Lamgwin tickles your body as he bludgeons you.

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Wounded>
Mood changed to: Berserk

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Wounded>
HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Wounded>

* - % - You dodge a bash from Lamgwin who loses his balance and falls!
Your bash at Lamgwin sends him sprawling!

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Wounded>
kick
Your kick hits Lamgwin in the solar plexus!

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Wounded>
bash
You thrash Lamgwin's waist very hard.

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
They already seem stunned!

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
They already seem stunned!

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
They already seem stunned!

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
They already seem stunned!

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
You thrash Lamgwin's feet very hard.
They already seem stunned!

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>

* - % - As Lamgwin avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground!
Lamgwin sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!

HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
Lamgwin bludgeons your head.

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
Lamgwin bludgeons your feet hard.

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>

* - % -
* You dodge a bash from Lamgwin who loses his balance and falls!
Your bash at Lamgwin sends him sprawling!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
kick
Your kick hits Lamgwin in the solar plexus!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
You thrash Lamgwin's feet very hard.

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
They already seem stunned!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
They already seem stunned!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
They already seem stunned!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
They already seem stunned!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
They already seem stunned!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
You thrash Lamgwin's shoulders very hard.

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
They already seem stunned!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>

* - % - As Lamgwin avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground!
Lamgwin sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
Lamgwin tickles your body as he bludgeons you.

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
Lamgwin bludgeons your hands hard.

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>

* - % - As Lamgwin avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground!
Lamgwin sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
Lamgwin bludgeons your head hard.

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
Lamgwin bludgeons your head.

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>

* - % - You dodge a bash from Lamgwin who loses his balance and falls!
Your bash at Lamgwin sends him sprawling!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
kick
Your kick hits Lamgwin in the solar plexus!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
They already seem stunned!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
They already seem stunned!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
They already seem stunned!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
They already seem stunned!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
You thrash Lamgwin's head hard.

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
They already seem stunned!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
They already seem stunned!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
They already seem stunned!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>

* - % - Lamgwin sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
Lamgwin bludgeons your feet hard.

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!

HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
Lamgwin bludgeons your head hard.

HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>

* - % -
* As Lamgwin avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground!
Lamgwin sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!

HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
Lamgwin bludgeons your arms.

HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!

HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
Lamgwin bludgeons your legs.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>

* - % - As Lamgwin avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground!
Lamgwin sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
Lamgwin tries to bludgeon your legs, but misses.

HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
Lamgwin bludgeons your feet hard.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>

* - % -
* As Lamgwin avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground!
Lamgwin sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
Beginning autosave. Please wait...
bash

Autosave complete.
HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>

HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
Lamgwin bludgeons your shoulders hard.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
Lamgwin bludgeons your feet very hard.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>

* - % -
* As Lamgwin avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground!
Lamgwin sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
Lamgwin tickles your body as he bludgeons you.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
Lamgwin bludgeons your legs.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>

* - % -
* As Lamgwin avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground!
Lamgwin sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
Lamgwin bludgeons your arms.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
Lamgwin bludgeons your legs.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
You thrash Lamgwin's shoulders hard.
Lamgwin barely tickles your body with his bludgeon.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>

* - % - As Lamgwin avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground!
Lamgwin sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
bash
Lamgwin tickles your body as he bludgeons you.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
Lamgwin bludgeons your head.
You're stunned, but will probably regain consciousness again.

HP:Stunned MV:Fresh - Lamgwin: Battered>
All you can do right now is think about the stars!
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Re: Rebash bug ?

Post by Alder »

At this point this thread is at best a complaint about bash mechanics, not a bug. Your last log demonstrates bad luck, nothing more. If you want to suggest changes to how bash faceoffs work, please do so in the general forums.
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Re: Rebash bug ?

Post by Chase »

Also, there's really no point zerking in an abs vs abs battle. And if you're combo then even more reason not to zerk. Just fyi
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